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Why Bi-wiring?

“There is no physical reason why bi-wiring should improve a speaker’s sound.”

I’ve heard this sentiment repeated over the years by some very reputable sources. So why do many respected manufacturers continue to build speakers with two separate sets of input terminals explicitly for that purpose (that is, connecting a loudspeaker to an amp or receiver using two pairs of wire rather than the usual one)? Bi-wiring doesn’t increase the power going to the speakers – it just doubles the number of cables connected to them. So what’s the point?

According to many audiophiles and speaker companies, the answer’s simple: it’s the sound.

I decided to see (or rather hear) for myself if there was anything to this bi-wiring. Starting with a pair of four-way floor-standing towers I have at home, I disconnected the metal jumpers that joined the two sets of positive and negative terminals on the back of each speaker. Then I hooked up my two matching pairs of speaker wires between the speakers and my receiver. Once connected, I fired up the system to hear the results.

I was impressed.

Bass definition had clearly ratcheted up a couple of notches. Individual bass notes were much easier to distinguish, and they seemed to have taken on a fuller and rounder tone. High frequencies also improved greatly. The somewhat harsh brightness that I had always attributed to my speaker’s metal dome tweeters disappeared – replaced by a smoothness and warmth I hadn’t thought them capable of.

I performed the same experiment on a pair of high-quality two-way bookshelf speakers that I own. The results were similar although a bit more subtle.

The bottom line – even though I can’t explain exactly why, bi-wiring worked surprisingly well in my system. If you have speakers that are compatible with a bi-wired connection, I would highly recommend that you give it a try. Happy listening.


Posted Tue, Mar 4 2008 2:31 PM by DaveB

Comments

George wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Thu, Mar 20 2008 5:43 PM

Jus use a heavy guage wire to achieve the same results. Sort of like monster cables but  the cost is much less

Jim wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Sat, Mar 22 2008 5:20 PM

I have Klipsch RF-35 fronts and Denon AVR-2803 surround receiver. How do you suggest I bi-wire? Wire from the A right and left connectors to the each speaker upper and the B right and left connectors to each speaker lower? or, Double wiring from the right and left Front A connectors?

DaveB wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:14 AM

Jim,

I’m glad to see you’re going to give bi-wiring a try. Personally, I would double wire the right and left Front A connectors to bi-wire my speakers. To make those cramped back-panel receiver connections a bit easier I use banana plugs on one pair of the wires. Those are plugged straight into the receiver’s Speaker A binding post terminals. The other pair has bare ends. Those are connected to the same terminals and fastened down using the threaded nuts on the binding posts (just as you would if you were making a standard bare wire connection to any binding post terminal).

As to the first connection method you describe -- using the receiver’s A and B speaker terminals -- I see no reason that couldn’t be used. I believe your Denon receiver’s A and B speaker outputs are internally wired together in parallel, so the net effect would be the same as connecting both sets of wires to Speaker A alone. Of course, this would mean losing the functionality of having B speakers hooked up to your system. (And I know that having the speaker selector switched to the Front A + Front B position can affect the available surround sound options with some receivers, although I’m not certain that would be the case with your specific model.)

I know it goes without saying, but don’t forget to remove the jumpers on your Klipsch speakers!

Thanks again for your interest.

Dave

Skellum wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Mon, Mar 24 2008 11:15 AM

Most speakers set up like this benefit from Bi-Amping. IE you use one amp to drive the tweeters and one to drive the bottom end, There are 2 methods, vertical and horizontal. I use a pair of PS Audio a-100 amps for this in my system (available from Crutchfield). See the PS Audio web site for more info.

DaveB wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Mon, Mar 24 2008 3:53 PM

You’re absolutely right, Skellum. Bi-amping is an excellent option for boosting performance with compatible speakers and audio components. In fact, there are probably quite a few folks out there right now with newer home theater receivers that may not even realize they could configure a bi-amp setup with their system. I plan on addressing that very issue shortly in a separate post. Please stay tuned.

JohnP wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Mon, Jun 2 2008 9:53 PM

I am running with an Onkyo TX-SR604, Polk Audio CS1 Center, and Pok Audio Monitor 70's for the Front...I decided to give bi-wiring a try on the 70's and I noticed improved accoustics (mainly, lows and mids) from the 70's!  I'm glad I tried it, because I love it!  This is one of those things you'll just have to try for yourself!  

BobJ wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Tue, Jun 10 2008 10:20 AM

I have just had my new home wired for 7.1 home cinema plus multi-room audio (20 speakers)

I specified the best heavy duty cable at some expense!

Imagine my surprise therefore when I opened up one of the power amplifiesrs to find that the wires which feed the output terminals inside the amplifier are only very thin.

I have always understood that to achieve the results that heavy duty wiring promises the whole circuit had to be heavy duty.

Have I wasted my money?

Rao wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Mon, Sep 22 2008 2:38 PM

Thank you Dave for the TIP using  A and B speaker terminals.

I bi-wired my system over the weekend and I am impressed.

I had the same experience as you described in your first post.

thank you again.

denon 1909

polk monitor 50

DaveB wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Thu, Sep 25 2008 1:26 PM

That's cool, Rao! Did you try setting up your '1909 and Monitor 50s for bi-amping? As you may or may not realize, the Denon AVR-1909 receiver lets you reassign the back-surround amplifier channels to drive the front speakers -- effectively doubling the power going to them. The catch is that you can only do 5.1 surround instead of 7.1 (no big whoop if you have no back surround speakers anyway), and you can't power speakers in another zone with the receiver (although the '1909 still gives you preamp outputs for zone 2 if you really have your heart set on the multi-room audio thing).

Dave

Ben wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Sun, Aug 2 2009 10:27 PM

Hi, I know this is an older thread but I'm trying to bi-wire my klipsch RC-3 center channel speaker with my new Onkyo 706 receiver and wondered what connections I need to make. Can you help me? The speaker does have two sets of terminal one above the other, I just don't know what to do at the receiver end. Thanks for any help.

Ben

DaveB wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Mon, Aug 3 2009 9:21 AM

Hi Ben,

connecting your speaker cables to the RC-3 should be pretty straightforward. You simply need to remove the metal jumpers that connect the high- and low-frequency input terminals on your Klipsch, then connect the posiitive and negative conductors of each of your two speaker wires to the positive and negative posts of the speaker. (Think of it as though your hooking up two speakers instead of one.)

Hooking up the receiver end is a little trickier, but that's only because you have to connect two sets of speaker wires on to the receiver's single center channel speaker output (which was really only designed for one set).

At the receiver end of my bi-wire setup, I chose to use one pair of wires terminated with banana plugs. I simply plugged those directly into the ends of the negative and positive speaker bindings posts (your Onkyo has the same type of hollow threaded posts that accept banana plugs as mine). The other set of wires I left unterminated. I just slid  these in from the side, tightening down the speaker nuts afterwards to lock the wire into place.

I think that should work well for you. Let me know how it turns out, and if you have any other questions.

Dave

Ben wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Mon, Aug 3 2009 3:33 PM

Hi Dave thanks for the quick reply, that really helped me. I also read the bi-amping article you wrote which was very informative. I plan on doing that as well.

I do have another question or two if you don't mind. I also have the Klipsch RP-3's which are the powered tower speakers as I'm sure you know. These are new to me and I don't know if it's ok to hook the speaker up using the amplified outs from the receiver or if I need to use the pre outs since the speakers are powered already? Maybe it's just the sub portion that is powered. I am really green regarding these speakers. Any help with this would be great.

The other question regards hooking up a separate powered sub with the 706. Should I just run a separate cable to the sub or as I think the back of the RP-3's indicate, can I somehow pull the sub signal off the tower and send it to the separate sub? I'm going to be running wire through walls and ceilings soon so I'm trying to eliminate more runs if possible.

I know this is a lot of questions especially for this thread. Thanks for all the help.

Ben

DaveB wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Tue, Aug 4 2009 2:30 PM

Hi Ben,

you're right, these are a lot of questions. They're interrelated in some ways, but I'll try to answer them to the best of my ability. The Klipsch RP-3s pre-date Crutchfield's  experience with this brand, so I'm going strictly by what the online owner's manual on Klipsch's website says.

It looks like the amplified speaker outputs from the Onkyo '706 would work just fine with the RP-3s, there is no need to use preamp connections in your situation. And it is just the subwoofer portion of these speakers that is self-powered, the higher frequency drivers still depend on the receiver's wattage.

Unfortunately, the Klipsch owner's manual doesn't provide an illustration of the available connections on the speaker, so I'm going strictly by the (somewhat cryptic) written description of inputs/outputs. From what I can gather, the LFE (Low Frequency Effects) input on one speaker is designed to accept the LFE signal from the receiver's subwoofer output, then feed that LFE signal to the other speaker (which could then, I suppose, in turn send it to a powered sub). That sounds a little convoluted for my taste.

Based on what I see from the manual, here's what I would do:

Remove the metal jumpers, and bi-amp the High and Low speaker inputs on the RP-3's with the '706's front and re-assigned back surround amplifier channels.

Run the subwoofer (LFE) output from the Onkyo straight to your powered sub. In my opinion, this would be the cleanest connection.

Given the number of potential connection options, you may want to contact Klipsch to see if there's a better way to do this. But from where I sit, the method above makes the most sense to me with your Onkyo receiver running the show.

Best of luck to you. Let me know how it turns out.

Dave

Ben wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Wed, Aug 5 2009 7:49 AM

Dave, thanks for your invaluable help here; above and beyond the call with the research!  I think I'm now ready to start running cable and enjoying the 706.

Sincerely,

Ben

Scott wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Thu, Oct 8 2009 1:48 AM

I have a Yamaha RX-V463 Amp and Klipsch speakers.  I want to bi-amp my front speakers is this possible?  I know my amp has a Zone A and Zone B speaker connections.

DaveB wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Tue, Oct 13 2009 5:19 PM

Scott,

I don't believe it would be possible to bi-amp your speakers with the '463. It offers 5 channels of power (instead of 7), with no provision for redirecting the power from the surround channels to the front speakers.

I see that it does have a Speaker A and Speaker B output, which would make it pretty easy to bi-wire your Klipschs. Just pop off the jumpers that connect the upper and lower binding posts, and run two pair of wires -- one each to the '463's Speaker A and Speaker B outputs.

This might not result in quite the same performance boost as true bi-amping, but it should give you enough improvement to justify the effort.

Dave

Ryan C wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Sun, Nov 1 2009 6:23 AM

I am wondering as well. I have Klipsch RF3ii and Klipsch RC3ii with a vsx23txh. Will I hear a difference if I bi-wire?

DaveB wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Wed, Nov 11 2009 5:19 PM

Hi Ryan,

I can't guarantee you'll hear a difference, but I'm betting you will. On a related note, I believe the receiver you have allows for bi-amping. I might suggest doing that with your RF3ii towers, then bi-wire your RC3ii center channel. Good luck and good listening.

Dave

MIke wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Tue, Nov 17 2009 1:02 PM

you guys seem to be using the term Bi-amp and Bi-wire interchangabley, they are not the same thing. The title says BI-wire, but what you describe is BI-amping. Bi-wiring is sending 2 sets of wires to your speakers with from the same output without removing the jumpers on the speakers. Bi-amping is sending one set of wires from one output to the high side connection on your speakers and sending a second set of wires from a different output (that is the same as the front speakeer output) to the low end connection on your speakers with the jumpers REMOVED. If you bi-amp without removing the jumpers you can destroy your speakers, and if you bi-wire and remove the jumper you are eliminating the low end of you speakers. Bi-amping has a benefit, bi-wiring has none.

DaveB wrote re: Why Bi-wiring?
on Wed, Nov 18 2009 4:29 PM

Hi Mike,

I totally agree with you when you point out that bi-wiring and bi-amping aren't the same. (See my post on bi-amping here  http://bit.ly/bi-amping.) But I guess where you lose me is your description of how bi-wiring is achieved. Everything I have ever read or seen concerning bi-wiring, ranging from speaker and amplifier manufacturers owner's manuals to on-line how-to guides, recommends removing the connecting jumpers between the upper and lower speaker binding posts. But I could be wrong.

Of course, the bottom line of bi-wiring is simply that one uses a single stereo amp and two pair of speaker wires to drive a pair of stereo speakers. Bi-amping, on the other hand, uses two stereo amps (or four channels of a compatible surround sound receiver) to drive a pair of stereo speakers (two channels of power for the upper frequencies and two for the lower frequencies). In pro and tweaky high-end home applications there are electronic crossovers involved as well, but that's another story for another time.

I also agree with you, Mike, that if one were to bi-amp without removing the jumpers on the speakers, damage would occur. Although in this case, I fear that it would be the amplifiers that would suffer harm (maybe the speakers, too, I'm not sure). Also, I'm not certain how bi-wiring with jumpers removed would result in elimination of the low end. I presently bi-wire my speakers this way, and enjoy plenty of bass response.

Anyway, thanks for reading my post. If anyone else would like to weigh in on this fascinating and controversial topic, please feel free to speak up. I promise to keep an open mind.

Dave

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