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I recently installed a new Sony DSX-S200X in my car. Basically, I'm satisfied with this unit, especially for the price I paid. It does have some usability quirks,
but overall the sound quality is decent and the iPod and USB
integration is very fast and easy to use.
That's good feedback to have. Thanks!
Fantastic info!!! I wish so badly that CF would encourage this type of post (maybe a dedicated thread for reviews?), but first-hand experience like this is an instant bookmark for me. thanx so much!!!
Thanks guys, glad I could help. I originally had much more detailed information in the first post but it didn't seem like there was much interest at the time. I edited it down to just the Pros and Cons to be more concise.
But in the interest of helping anyone researching this unit now, below was my full review. Hope this helps!
I tested the unit with the following devices:
All devices were fast to read and initialize (around 4 sec or less)
and all devices were fast to skip tracks and display song information.
The fastest device to display song info was the Nano. It did this within
about half a second. A close second was the Class 10 SD card. Third was
the generic USB drive and finally the slowest was the hard drive based
iPod Classic, which takes around 1 to 1.5 seconds to display song info.
Browsing and searching was fast on all devices. I never had to wait for
it to think or read. This could be because I don't have a huge number of
songs or because I don't have then separated into lots of different
Suggestions for Improvement
I agree with the others...excellent review.
Personally, I have a S200X that's been sitting in its box for about two weeks waiting to be installed. I wanted to wait until I could see the 2012 models announced at CES.
Based on my criteria (primarily--good display, good interface, hidden USB), I've come close to buying a new JVC for the past couple years, but have held off due to glitches discussed here, and a interface that's perhaps not quite as friendly as it could be.
For 2012, while most have made only minimal changes, JVC has revamped their line. The X80BT and R80BT look appealing, and have addressed at least one of criticisms of past models with the new display. Now, the questions are whether they have good quality controls, if the interface has changed, and if they still suffer from the iPod audio bug.
The Sony, aside from being great value as a closeout, appears to have one of the best and quickest iPod/USB interfaces (though not perfect), a good OEL display (though limited to white), and does fulfill the hidden USB requirement, though I don't buy into the hype of the Tune tray. The RCA pigtails that sprout like weeds out the back also kinda bug me, but out of sight, out of mind.
Additionally, it has a much more extensive EQ, and time alignment, which the JVCs lack except for the top model A95BT, which lists for $280 and is more than I want to spend. Having never heard a unit with time alignment, does it really make a difference? Imaging and sound stage could definitely be improved in my car.
I still plan to install the Sony, and chances are I'll keep it, but wandering eye is hard to resist.
Great review and I enjoy seeing info like this - more info is always better.
CramponYou can turn off the Device Inside warning, but there is no way to
turn off the three beeps that warn you to remove the faceplate when you
turn off vehicle power.
No EASY way - I would only recommend this for someone who rarely planned to remove the faceplate, but that was the way I used it and the relay worked well and was comparatively inexpensive.
Hope This Helps!!!
Anyone else have suggestions?
2002 Ford Focus JVC KD-A815 Sony CDX-GT410u Sony XT-100HD HD Tuner Stock
speakers, no amp, no subs
CheekyMonkeyThe RCA pigtails that sprout like weeds out the back also kinda bug me, but out of sight, out of mind.
on some occasions with RCA's plugged in, the HU's depth requirement can jump beyond the point where it fits properly. pigtails avoid that issue. also if a connector goes bad, i can easily splice a new pigtail without busting apart the HU. pigtails are best, IMHO.
I hadn't considered J Ro's points, but he makes some good points here.
I think on most cars you get a cleaner install with RCA's on the rear of the HU - but there are probably a few where this doesn't work at all and pig-tails would allow the install.
Like most things, I doubt you can say one or the other is universally better than the other.
I also just bought the DSX-S200x to replace my recently stolen stereo and it definitely has some quirks. For example in regards to the USB shuffle (I assume this would work for Ipod as well but haven't tested it), there is also the option to "Shuffle Device" which will randomly play through all the songs on the USB drive, but it is a bit quirky in it's use.
When you first plug in a USB device the option will be there, but as soon as you use the search feature and select "Artist" or "Album" the "Shuffle Device" option won't be available anymore. If you go back into search, select "Folder&File" or "Track" and select a song to play, the option for "Shuffle Device" will be available again.
There is also a "Shuffle All" option if you use the SensMe feature.
I finally got around to installing my S200X...but ran out of time and didn't finish. I work slowly and methodically, but crimping and soldering thirty or so connectors took more time than I anticipated.
But, I did get it hooked up and powered on for some testing, even if it isn't ready for permanent occupancy yet.
So far, I like what I've seen--the USB connection is the fastest I've experienced, the display looks good, and somewhat surprisingly, it seems louder (though it has less power) and sounds better than my old HU. I don't know if it's the DSP, EQ, and such at work, or if I've just been conditioned to the now apparent mediocrity of my previous HUs. The 6x9s I installed in the rear as an upgrade never really made any difference with the old HU, but I notice them now.
One nicety I will miss, though, from the old HU is the custom setting for power-on volume, which always ensured that the level was neither too loud nor too soft, every time it was switched on.
Of course, the real test will come under road conditions.
I've been happy with mine. I can't see any other HU costing the same amount keeping me as content. So far the main little nit picks I have with the unit are the sub control doesn't seem to have an actual on/off setting persay. You can turn it to -10 and then the next notch lower is off. Second, I'm using the same USB flash drive I used in my Alpine CDA-117 and while the Alpine would see and allow me to play my playlists on the flash drive, I have been unable to even find a playlist option in the search menu that pops up. Perhaps I just need to redo the way my flash drive is setup.
Weigel21So far the main little nit picks I have with the unit are the sub control doesn't seem to have an actual on/off setting persay
Easy solution to this would be a toggle switch in the remote wire to the sub amp - but I agree, it would be nice to have it easily accessible in the head unit.
Being mostly unfamiliar with subs, is there really often a need to toggle them on and off?
I can see how those who choose to drive rolling Wackers might night want to attract attention from the authorities, but one would think that at proper, reasonably set levels, they wouldn't require much fiddling.
Back on topic--finished the installation and now I need to get it dialed in. For the custom listening position distance settings, in theory. should the measurement be taken to the midbass (in the kick panel), or to the tweeter (in the door panel)? Or in between them?
Also identified one other quirky feature that I had grown accustomed to before--being able to use the HU with the ignition off, which was nice when parked, and also allowed some quick adjustments made without having the key in hand. A preset time limit helped prevent the feature from draining the battery.
But, it's minor stuff more than compensated for in many other areas.
CheekyMonkeyBeing mostly unfamiliar with subs, is there really often a need to toggle them on and off?
Yep - I'm not a subwoofer person either - but I can think of a couple of situations:
In both situations, I would prefer to not have to adjust the subwoofer level down to zero and back to whatever I had it - which the toggle switch would allow for.
CheekyMonkeybeing able to use the HU with the ignition off, which was nice when parked, and also allowed some quick adjustments made without having the key in hand.
Most OEM head units have that - I don't know of any aftermarket ones that do.
I got close to it with a relay and toggle switch like this (thanks Alex W). I have to remember to turn it off when I leave the vehicle, but you could easily wire in another relay to turn it off when the door opened or after a time delay.
I have people in my car from time to time, like my Mother and sister, that can't stand the sub(s) playing. I can turn them down to a level that they're ok with, but at that point I just as well turn the darn things off. Is it a big deal that it doesn't have an on/off selector? No, but it'd have been nice.
As for the time delay shutoff, you can set the HU to shut off after a preset amount of time for cars without a switched power source. I don't know if it can in someway help you or not. Probably not come to think of it.
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