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Okay so i got my SGP in the mail yesterday. Played with it for a day so far and I plan to make a full review on it probably sometime next week but I figured I would give an initial opinion.
First of all there was already a problem when I got it. I ordered what I thought to be the Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0 but got the Samsung Galaxy S Wifi 5.0, which is the European version (thanks a lot Amazon (not sure if saying I purchased from Amazon is against policy but if it is let me know I will change it to The Jungle), not really there fault though it was from one of their sellers so...). I considered sending it back because Samsung won't cover it under warranty but I am just going to purchase a 3 year Square Trade warranty with accident protection. The only difference in the player is the home button on the Euro version is a dedicated mechanical button vs. a touch sensitive one. I actually prefer this so it's not a problem.
Layout is good. I have no problem with it. I love the large screen size. Only difficult thing is finding a universal GPS windshield or even dash holder. Speed isn't a issue either even though it only has a single core 1 Ghz hummingbird processor. I'm not sure why Samsung just didn't elect to use a dual core but oh well. Ram is a little on the light side, only packing 377 Mb's (thought it was 512 so maybe the other is used for only the devices OS and is hidden in the task manager). But with that said I haven't had a problem. The player only has 8 gigs of storage and only about 5.5 is usable out of the box. It does support Micro SDHC cards up to 32 gigs so that is it's savior. My most listened music already filled the storage so I will also be purchasing a Micro SD card soon.
Sound quality is pretty good. The headphones it came with have pretty good SQ for just being a free pair that came with the player. I had a iPod once upon a time and I would say from a quality stand point these are twice as good. The speakers on the back of the unit are decent too. I wouldn't recommend listening to music on them but there great for movies and youtube videos.
Now onto some of the apps that came pre-installed.
All of the apps work fairly well as far as I can tell. I will be getting some more as well as purchasing some so I will talk on those further later.
I think that all about I have right now that I can talk about. I'll add more to this review in probably a weeks time after I get everything I plan to buy and have had some time to play with it.
I will also review the Polk UltraFit 2000 headphones, a Skinomi screen protector, maybe a GPS mount if I can find one I like and a Riot Outfitter case. Pictures of everything will be here too. I may also touch on the different GPS apps available if I feel like purchasing more than one. There will defiantly a review of the Sygic GPS app because that's probably the one I will purchase and use extensively.
Okay so I have been using Sygic GPS for a few days now and I figured I would update my feeling on it.
First off it's great!!! I compared it to a TomTom unit I own and it seems they usually have the same routes. Although the maps are more up to date so Sygic does take better routes when available due to new construction and one way roads now two way. It finds routes quickly and updates routes when you miss a turn quickly and seamlessly.
I did have one problem however. The first time I used it to give me a route home from school it decided it wanted to take me down 40 (highway) rather than 70 (freeway). Not sure what the problem was but at first I thought it was going to be faster (not sure why but I didn't preview the route first and trusted it). After driving all the way from Columbus to Reynoldsburg I disregarded the directions from the GPS and hopped on 270 to 70 (those of you from central Ohio understand what I mean. Those who aren't get a map lol). Other than that small problem it has worked great. I used it again to come home from school and it took me down 70 so like I said I don't know what the hell it was thinking the first time.
Currently (well as of 4-4-12) Sygic offers a free 7 day trial. But there is a slight error in the code which allows for a 7 month free trial . Good for me I guess but I'm sure it will be caught and fixed (although it hasn't been a full 7 days so it still may conk out tomorrow but I hope not).
Now for POI's. As far as I can tell all POI's are up to date and at the correct location. I searched a few around my area and they all were correct to my knowledge. It even has some that are not really popular places with other POI services I have seen (finds hole in the wall places that I haven't seen on other GPS's).
I was going to try out Don't Panic but it does not work (as of 4-10-12). I can't seem to download the trial maps so it's a no go. When I choose the map I want it says connecting to store (I do have a wifi connection) then takes me to the downloads screen but no download starts. If anyone has experience with this GPS software and can explain to me what I'm doing wrong please do.
If the Sygic trial does indeed work past 7 days I will purchase Copilot and do some testing with it and add it to this review. But as of now I'm sticking with Sygic and loving it.
The only other reputable software I found was Navigo. I used this on a HP GPS I had a short while ago and it was amazing, possibly my favorite but you had to pay for map updates and you still do so I won't be messing with this.
The last thing I have to say is that all above GPS software's have live traffic updates available for purchase but you have to have a wireless connection to use it which stinks since the SGP is wifi only and unless you have a portable hot spot it's useless. I thought/hoped it would work similar to GPS's that have live traffic updates (not really sure how that works though but you don't have to have a wireless connection).
Okay this part will be super quick and basically effortless on my part. Today I received the Polk Ultrafit 2000's. There was a slight problem... They did not fit my big head comfortably. The plastic that sits behind your ears kind of dug into mine especially if I moved my head around. Now to the sound quality. Even though they don't fit and I'm sending them back I did play with them all day. They sounded great out of box to say the least and as with all speakers I'm sure with time they would sound even better. Bass response was pretty good, although not quite to my expectation considering these are Polk's. This may be due to the fact that I didn't break them in. From what I gather most headphones require 20-40 hours of 'burn-in' to start to sound as they should. The only other thing I would like to mention is that the play/pause and volume controls don't work at all with the SGP. I hoped they would but they don't so I doubt they would work with anything but iPod but I don't know for sure. I also tested it with a Zune HD to no avail.
Now about the SGP I have a new gripe. Whenever I get a email it stops my music to play a tone informing of the email. I usually will get 10-20 emails a day so this can become quite annoying. I have checked the settings and I can not find a way to turn this feature off. I will do a little more searching online tomorrow and add the fix if I find it. I would think a different media player software wouldn't be interrupted but I'm unsure.
I should be finishing this review up in a few days so stay tuned if your interested. Also since I am now returning the Polk's I have decided to get the Sennheiser HD 439. I kind of regret to say I didn't purchase these from CF because I don't want to have to wait for shipping (I'm picking them up in the morning from a local store). But if I like them I will probably buy them from CF and take the others back just so I can save a couple bucks because the are cheaper here (on Crutchfield that is) lol (I'm a cheap *** I know). But I also get CF's lifetime tech support to which is always a good reason to buy here. Even though they are headphones you never know if you'll need help. Now these headphones aren't my choice in fit. I never really liked around the ear headphones but after listening to a friends in school Tuesday (he had a lower model then these don't remember what now though) and liking the feel of them and then seeing some of the reviews out there for these I had to have them. Many reviews say you should purchase an amp and once again I know nothing about headphone amps so I did some digging.
I came across the FiiO E6. Apparently this is one of the best 'bang for your buck' head phone amps. Every review I found spoke highly of it so I got one. I will of course do my own review but here are some of the more trusted reviews I found.
Well that's it for tonight. More to come soon. Thanks for reading and following along so far.
Update 3.0 (Real quick question)!!!
So I wanted to try something out today. I plugged my SGP into my HU to see if by some miracle it would work. It didn't but it will charge the SGP so I had a question to ask. If I were to plug in a USB split-er and plug in my SGP into one end and my USB in the other would the HU still read the USB and charge the SGP? I'll probably try it out and see what happens when I get home tonight but I figured I'd ask and see if anyone has an answer. There was a thread a while back I believe where someone asked if any heads would just charge there Android phone and I believe everyone was in agreement it would not but I can't find for the life of me where it's at (It may not even be on CF so don't look to hard if your not sure). Thanks.
Okay gonna wrap up the review on the SGP. Also will be going over some of the FiiO amp as well as the Skinomi screen protector and the Accessory Power GPS holder.
First things first the SGP:
Okay I think that's all I had to say for the SGP if I think/run into anything else I'll add it in so check back for any more updates if your interested.
Now onto the FiiO amp. I just received it in the mail today and have only run into one problem with it so far. I had big bass selected on the EQ for the SGP and when listened to two songs fine but then another started playing and the speakers in my headphones sound extremely distorted. At first I thought it was because of the FiiO amp so switched turned off the EQ on it but the problem persisted. So I changed the EQ on the SGP to Auto and the problem went away. Not sure why it wasn't doing it at first. Only thing I can think is how the song was recorded (bass emphasized song) in the first place. The EQ setting of the FiiO amp are all nice and I tend to use EQ setting 2 which from what I gather is increased response from lows, mids, and highs. I like being able to turn up my music louder especially when I'm on campus and there is a lot of noise around me. Makes it easy to tune everyone out.
Now with the Skinomi screen protector. It comes with everything you need; cleaning cloth, card for squeezing out air bubbles, and mild detergent/water mix for the application process. I recommend putting the protector on in a steamy bathroom because it cuts down on the dust in the air. After I first installed it one corner was cloudy but the directions it should clear up in a day or two which it did. Of course though with my bad luck I managed to get a black fuzzy, probably from the cleaning cloth, underneath the film during the install. It's down in the corner at the bottom of the screen and I only notice it when there is a white screen so it's not that big of a deal. Decided I test it out and ran a key on the screen. The protector had a small scratch on it that disappeared a day later which is what Skinomi says will happen. Figure I should also mention Skinomi has a lifetime warranty. Judging from reviews from multiple places no one has had a problem getting a new screen protector when they asked.
Last but not least is the Accessory Power Dash Mount (I purchased the XL version but can't find it on there site). It works great doesn't slide on my dash even during sudden stops or sharp turns. I prefer the flexible mount because it gives more height off the dash. Holds my SGP firm and I'm not worried about coming out. That's really it for that lol. Not much to say about GPS holder I guess.
Okay so this should be it. I covered everything I think. If anything else comes to mind or comes up I'll add it in. I hopefully will get some pictures up soon as well. Hopefully they will be up tonight but I'm not making any promises. I will probably just add them as a separate post so this review doesn't take up the whole page. If anyone want's to ask me questions go ahead. I will answer them unless I don't know the answer lol.
GMC Sonoma, JVC KD-A95BT, 2 Pioneer TS-D601P in doors, 2 Pioneer TS-G4644R in dash, 2 JL W3v2-D2 10 inch subs, Lightning Audio B4.250.2, Soundstream TX1.1300D
Interested to hear more about it.
Sygic looks good - Says it's 7-days trial and unlimited license. Copilot looks good also and is a bit less expensive.
(I'm not up on this, so there may well be better alternatives).
Anyone else have suggestions?
2002 Ford Focus JVC KD-A815 Sony CDX-GT410u Sony XT-100HD HD Tuner Stock
speakers, no amp, no subs
This one is free, but looks like it needs a data connection for map search - maybe not so good for the SGP.
Found some cool free games for it - plus there is also MAME for it:
Sygic does have a 7 day free trial but something is wrong with there coding for it because when I use it it tells me I have a 7 month free trial. Someone must have put the 7 in the wrong part of the code LOL. So I may go ahead and buy Copilot and continue to use my 7 month free trial. Although I'm sure in a update it will be fixed. From what I found Sygic, Navigo, and Copilot are the three best. I used Navigo maps on a HP GPS I had once long ago and liked it but you have to pay for map updates which I dislike so I will probably avoid it.
Updated for GPS software.
Out of my element a bit, but I'll add what I can (as usual).
BIG teddyThe first time I used it to give me a route home from school it decided it wanted to take me down 40 (highway) rather than 70 (freeway).
My son's Garmin has a setting where it will avoid Interstates - perhaps Sygic has something similar and you had that set.
BIG teddyIf the Sygic trial does indeed work past 7 days I will purchase Copilot and do some testing with it and add it to this review.
Got confused by the wording here and thought you meant is Sygic DOESN'T work past 7 days (still think you might), but also didn't realize Copilot apparently has no free trial, so you are stuck with it if you don't like it.
BIG teddyThe only other reputable software I found was Navigo. I used this on a HP GPS I had a short while ago and it was amazing, possibly my favorite but you had to pay for map updates and you still do so I won't be messing with this.
Do you mean Navigon? Garmin GPS's now have free map updates, but my son's is a few year's old and they wanted $100 or so for updated maps - to the point it was less expensive to buy a better GPS on Black Friday. However, the GPS is still useful even with an out of date map.
BIG teddysimilar to GPS's that have live traffic updates (not really sure how that works though
I believe they use an FM channel that the radio stations use also and update the traffic maps via FM radio. (Didn't come out correctly, but ...)
Hope This Helps!!!
TigerHeliMy son's Garmin has a setting where it will avoid Interstates - perhaps Sygic has something similar and you had that set.
It has it but I didn't set it nor was it set by default.
TigerHeliGot confused by the wording here and thought you meant is Sygic DOESN'T work past 7 days (still think you might), but also didn't realize Copilot apparently has no free trial, so you are stuck with it if you don't like it.
I know I'll be stuck with Copilot and I'm fine with that all the reviews I have found say it's really good. But I like Sygic and unless I don't get lucky and get to keep Sygic for 7 months then I won't buy Copilot (at least not now anyways). Reason I want both is because reviews say Sygic is better some places while Copilot is better in others. Hope that makes sense.
TigerHeliDo you mean Navigon? Garmin GPS's now have free map updates, but my son's is a few year's old and they wanted $100 or so for updated maps - to the point it was less expensive to buy a better GPS on Black Friday. However, the GPS is still useful even with an out of date map.
Yes I meant Navigon. As far as I can tell Navigon for Android doesn't give you free map updates. It did before it was owned by Garmin but that was several years ago. I hate out of date maps that's why I want the updates. May be unimportant to some but it's important to me. Roads change every year so an out of date map can cause problems (and it has in my case many a time).
TigerHeliI believe they use an FM channel that the radio stations use also and update the traffic maps via FM radio. (Didn't come out correctly, but ...)
That's what I figured but I wasn't sure. So unless a company adds support via FM then I'm SOL. The SGP has a radio but that doesn't help unless live traffic for GPS providers is offered via FM frequencies vs. wifi.
BIG teddySo unless a company adds support via FM then I'm SOL. The SGP has a radio but that doesn't help unless live traffic for GPS providers is offered via FM frequencies vs. wifi.
Not sure how this will or would play out - bottom line is that the system the dedicated GPS units use would work fine for the SGP - but whether a company (Sygic, Copilot) would incorporate FM updates to an app designed for Android phones that might not have FM is anyones guess.
One thing that I do like and have some hope for is that Android seems to be somewhat similar to Linux in that many of the best apps are both free and open-source, so if you want to add a feature to an app, there's a good chance that someone will be able to do it for you.
Could be wrong on the last part (I know it tends to work that way in Linux - in fact many of my favorite PC programs are Linux apps ported over to Windows).
Another quick update for tonight. Thanks for following along everyone and feel free to ask questions.
TigerHeliOne thing that I do like and have some hope for is that Android seems to be somewhat similar to Linux in that many of the best apps are both free and open-source, so if you want to add a feature to an app, there's a good chance that someone will be able to do it for you.
One could hope something like this happened. If anyone reads this and thinks they can do it I beg you please do this for me lol.
Not sure what you meant, but I think you took my comment a bit out of context - i.e. - I didn't necessarily mean you can tell one person "Build me an Android GPS application that works like Garmin does", but you can likely take something like Sygic (or other open-source software) and say "It would be great if this app had real-time traffic without an Internet connection", and quite likely it would get added and just be an updated version to download without an additional expense.
BIG teddyBass response was pretty good, although not quite to my expectation considering these are Polk's.
Oddly, I just read an article yesterday that said good headphones often seem to lack bass.
BIG teddyI would think a different media player software wouldn't be interrupted but I'm unsure.
I think it would be more likely to be solved with a different E-mail reader software, but I'm really not up on Droid apps.
BIG teddybecause the are cheaper here lol
Violates the price discussion policy (I know which way the price difference is), but I'm going to let it stand.
BIG teddyI came across the FiiO E6.
Took a while to find, but Alex W had a previous post about a CMoy amp.
TigerHeliOddly, I just read an article yesterday that said good headphones often seem to lack bass.
I have read several articles that state that but IMO a good set of head phones should have good bass response. I don't want it to over power the mids and highs but I want it to be there and stand out somewhat.
BIG teddybecause the are cheaper here lol
Violates the price discussion policy (I know which way the price difference is), but I'm going to let it stand.
I meant it is cheaper here on CF and not the local store. Don't think that violates the price discussion policy. I guess I should have worded it better. I will fix it to state that just to be safe. And it's really only cheaper because I don't have to pay taxes here on CF lol. Otherwise it's the same.
Also updated the review with a quick question.
Technically, Crutchfield doesn't want ANY discussion of competitor pricing - whether they are more or less expensive. Exception is price discussion of items they don't carry is allowed - but even then, you typically can't mention the seller.
BIG teddyIf I were to plug in a USB split-er and plug in my SGP into one end and my USB in the other would the HU still read the USB and charge the SGP?
Probably, but there are some significant caveats here. First off, for USB, they call them hubs, not splitters. I've tried it with a pair of thumb drives with my JVC and it worked, so I would think it would work with the SGP and the USB drive. I've also had several hubs fail (intermittent connection) when I plugged in something needing a charge (Creative MP3 Player) into them. I use hubs for mice and USB memory sticks and use a separate extension cable without a port to charge the MP3. My personal guess is it would work for a while, but in the long run, you'd be better off getting a cig-lighter charger for the SGP or charging it at home before you leave.
BIG teddyThere was a thread a while back I believe where someone asked if any heads would just charge there Android phone
I vaguely remember the thread, I don't remember everyone being in general agreement that it would not, and I believe you just proved that it would (well, for the SGP, not a phone, but I can't imagine them working differently).
TigerHeliTechnically, Crutchfield doesn't want ANY discussion of competitor pricing - whether they are more or less expensive. Exception is price discussion of items they don't carry is allowed - but even then, you typically can't mention the seller.
Oh guess I'll have to reread the price discussion policy. It has been a while. As long as it's not a big deal with you or anyone else I won't worry about it then.
TigerHeliMy personal guess is it would work for a while, but in the long run, you'd be better off getting a cig-lighter charger for the SGP or charging it at home before you leave.
I have one but the USB plug for the SGP is really short (about a 1' I believe) and wouldn't reach any of my cig lighters. I guess I could find an extension for it (I'm sure I have one laying around somewhere).
TigerHeliFirst off, for USB, they call them hubs, not splitters.
I knew that but I couldn't think of the word lol.
TigerHeliI vaguely remember the thread, I don't remember everyone being in general agreement that it would not, and I believe you just proved that it would (well, for the SGP, not a phone, but I can't imagine them working differently).
Well I figured I'd add the discovery to the thread but I guess it's not that important.
I had a few more questions on these. Somewhat considering this or the SGP 3.6, which is smaller and less expensive. Was looking through the manuals for both:
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